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Run To You

Run To You


A light in the room
It was you who was standing there
Tried it was true
As your glance met my stare

But your heart drifted off
Like the land split by sea
I tried to go, to follow
To kneel down at your feet

I'll run, I'll run, I'll run, run to you
I'll run, I'll run, I'll run, run to you

I've been settling scores
I've been fighting so long
But I've lost your war
And our kingdom is gone

How shall I win back
Your heart which was mine
I have broken bones and tattered clothes
I've run out of time

I'll run, I'll run, I'll run, run to you
I'll run, I'll run, I'll run, run to you
Whoa, oh, oh

I will break down the gates of heaven
A thousand angels stand waiting for me,
Oh, take my heart and I'll lay down my weapons
Break my shackles to set me free

I'll run, I'll run, I'll run, run to you
I'll run (I'll run), I'll run (I'll run), I'll run, run to you

Mm, mm, mm, mm

Elite: Dangerous faces competition after 16 December launch

Elite: Dangerous faces competition after 16 December launch

Elite


Space trading game Elite: Dangerous is to be launched on 16 December.
The latest sequel to the influential game will go on general release after months of testing by those who backed it on Kickstarter.
After launch, the game will face stiff competition from other space-based games currently in development.
Many of those offer players very similar experiences to the fighting, trading and exploring in deep space seen in Elite.
Plans to make the fourth instalment in the Elite series of games emerged in November 2012 when the project appeared on Kickstarter seeking to raise £1.25m to develop the game.
Elite: Dangerous is being made by Cambridgeshire-based Frontier Developments, the game studio headed by David Braben who co-developed the original Elite game. He said he used Kickstarter because it would have been hard to get a publisher to back the idea.
The December release date is later than originally planned and the game will initially only be playable on PCs. A Mac version is due to follow three months after the original release. Frontier is planning an event on 22 November at which some players will get a look at what the finished game will look like.
Elite is the most successful British Kickstarter-funded project ever
On porting the game to consoles, Mr Braben told the BBC: "It is important we make a great game first, but then we will look at other platforms."
After the end of its Kickstarter campaign, Frontier continued to raise funds via its website and from gamers who have paid to take part in the testing phases of the game.
This week Frontier announced that this fund-raising activity had helped it raise £7.5m and more than 140,000 people had taken part in its alpha and beta testing programme.
"Elite has a fabulous heritage," said James Binns, managing director at gaming news site PCGamesN. "The loyalty that people have to it comes from playing it in the 80s."
However, he said, it faced strong competition from another title, Star Citizen, that was also calling on a strong community to back it.
Currently, Star Citizen has raised more than $60m (£38m) from its backers and had a "super engaged" community who were fans of its creator Chris Roberts' earlier Wing Commander games.
Star Citizen was trying to be a bit different, said Mr Binns, as it was planning to let spaceship pilots get out of their craft and fight gun battles in space stations, on planets and inside ships themselves. Star Citizen is scheduled to be released in 2016 though some parts of it are available to backers already.
Also a rival, said Mr Binns, a game called No Man's Sky made by Guildford-based Hello Games.
Artwork from Star CitizenStar Citizen has raised a huge amount of cash to fund development
"If you are looking for a game that was inspired by the original Elite then No Man's Sky is that game," said Mr Binns. It too will let players use a spaceship to explore a Universe that has been created using a technique called "procedural generation".
Trailers for the game generated huge interest at the E3 convention and it is expected to be released in 2015. At first it will only be available on Sony's PlayStation 4 but a version for PCs is expected to follow.
Each of the games was appealing to a slightly different audience, said Mr Binns, but there was no doubt that these pools of players did overlap.
However, he said, Elite, Star Citizen and No Man's Sky could all face competition from a very well-established title.
"Right now," he said, "the most exciting space game that has shipped is Eve Online."
Mr Braben welcomed the presence of rivals, saying: "Competition is always a good thing for the players, as it gives choice, but also it keeps the competitors on their proverbial toes."

Elite: Dangerous faces competition after 16 December launch

Elite: Dangerous faces competition after 16 December launch

Elite


Space trading game Elite: Dangerous is to be launched on 16 December.
The latest sequel to the influential game will go on general release after months of testing by those who backed it on Kickstarter.
After launch, the game will face stiff competition from other space-based games currently in development.
Many of those offer players very similar experiences to the fighting, trading and exploring in deep space seen in Elite.
Plans to make the fourth instalment in the Elite series of games emerged in November 2012 when the project appeared on Kickstarter seeking to raise £1.25m to develop the game.
Elite: Dangerous is being made by Cambridgeshire-based Frontier Developments, the game studio headed by David Braben who co-developed the original Elite game. He said he used Kickstarter because it would have been hard to get a publisher to back the idea.
The December release date is later than originally planned and the game will initially only be playable on PCs. A Mac version is due to follow three months after the original release. Frontier is planning an event on 22 November at which some players will get a look at what the finished game will look like.
Elite is the most successful British Kickstarter-funded project ever
On porting the game to consoles, Mr Braben told the BBC: "It is important we make a great game first, but then we will look at other platforms."
After the end of its Kickstarter campaign, Frontier continued to raise funds via its website and from gamers who have paid to take part in the testing phases of the game.
This week Frontier announced that this fund-raising activity had helped it raise £7.5m and more than 140,000 people had taken part in its alpha and beta testing programme.
"Elite has a fabulous heritage," said James Binns, managing director at gaming news site PCGamesN. "The loyalty that people have to it comes from playing it in the 80s."
However, he said, it faced strong competition from another title, Star Citizen, that was also calling on a strong community to back it.
Currently, Star Citizen has raised more than $60m (£38m) from its backers and had a "super engaged" community who were fans of its creator Chris Roberts' earlier Wing Commander games.
Star Citizen was trying to be a bit different, said Mr Binns, as it was planning to let spaceship pilots get out of their craft and fight gun battles in space stations, on planets and inside ships themselves. Star Citizen is scheduled to be released in 2016 though some parts of it are available to backers already.
Also a rival, said Mr Binns, a game called No Man's Sky made by Guildford-based Hello Games.
Artwork from Star CitizenStar Citizen has raised a huge amount of cash to fund development
"If you are looking for a game that was inspired by the original Elite then No Man's Sky is that game," said Mr Binns. It too will let players use a spaceship to explore a Universe that has been created using a technique called "procedural generation".
Trailers for the game generated huge interest at the E3 convention and it is expected to be released in 2015. At first it will only be available on Sony's PlayStation 4 but a version for PCs is expected to follow.
Each of the games was appealing to a slightly different audience, said Mr Binns, but there was no doubt that these pools of players did overlap.
However, he said, Elite, Star Citizen and No Man's Sky could all face competition from a very well-established title.
"Right now," he said, "the most exciting space game that has shipped is Eve Online."
Mr Braben welcomed the presence of rivals, saying: "Competition is always a good thing for the players, as it gives choice, but also it keeps the competitors on their proverbial toes."

Huge raid to shut down 400-plus dark net sites

Huge raid to shut down 400-plus dark net sites
Silk Road 2.0 and 400 other sites believed to be selling illegal items including drugs and weapons have been shut down.
The sites operated on the Tor network - a part of the internet unreachable via traditional search engines.
The joint operation between 16 European countries and the US saw 17 arrests, including Blake Benthall who is said to be behind Silk Road 2.0.
Experts believe the shutdown represents a breakthrough for fighting cybercrime.
Six Britons were also arrested, including a 20-year-old man from Liverpool, a 19-year-old man from New Waltham, a 30 year-old-man from Cleethorpes and a man and woman, both aged 58, from Aberdovey, Wales.
All were interviewed and bailed according to the National Crime Agency.
Tor, as well as hosting legitimate sites, is home to thousands of illegal marketplaces, trading in drugs, child abuse images as well as sites for extremist groups.
line
Analysis: Rory Cellan-Jones, technology correspondent
Skull graphic
It was the operation last year to take down the drugs marketplace Silk Road which was the first major success in the battle against criminal use of the dark net.
Now this much bigger operation involving global cooperation amongst law enforcement agencies sees that battle taken to a new level, with Silk Road 2.0 amongst 400 sites closed.
It's important to remember that the dark net isn't all about illegal activity. Indeed its best known tool the anonymising browser Tor was created by a US intelligence agency to help its operations and to assist people living under repressive regimes.
Last year, many predicted that shutting one online drugs bazaar - and arresting its alleged owner Ross William Ulbricht - would not make a lot of difference, with plenty more rushing to fill the gap.
Now this much bigger operation may signal that the authorities have developed new techniques to track down the origins of these networks and those behind them.
Still, the number of arrests may be telling - 400 sites closed, but just 17 arrests. That would suggest there is a lot of work still to be done.
line
Silk Road 2.0 - which launched in October last year - is one of the most notorious and deals in the buying and selling of illegal drugs.
It was resurrected after the original Silk Road site was shut down and its alleged owner arrested.
'Serious organised crime'
The operation also saw the seizure of Bitcoins worth approximately $1m (£632,000).
"Today we have demonstrated that, together, we are able to efficiently remove vital criminal infrastructures that are supporting serious organised crime," said Troels Oerting, head of Europol's European cybercrime centre.
"And we are not 'just' removing these services from the open internet; this time we have also hit services on the dark net using Tor where, for a long time, criminals have considered themselves beyond reach," he added.
The BBC understands that the raid represented both a technological breakthrough - with police using new techniques to track down the physical location of dark net servers - as well as seeing an unprecedented level of international co-operation among law enforcement agencies.
Sign that appeared on seized sitesSites seized showed the following caption
The so-called deep web - the anonymous part of the internet - is estimated to be anything up to 500 times the size of the surface web.
Within that experts refer to the dark net - the part of the network which Tor operates on. There are approximately three million Tor users but the number of sites may be smaller.
Prof Alan Woodward a security consultant from the University of Surrey who also advises Europol, said that the shutdown represents a new era in the fight against cybercrime.
"Tor has long been considered beyond the reach of law enforcement. This action proves that it is neither invisible nor untouchable," he said.
But, he added, it did not mean copycat sites would not spring up, or that the police had thrown light on the dark net.
line
Explainer: What is Tor?
Tor is a special part of the internet that requires software, known as the Tor Browser bundle, to access it.
The name is an acronym for The Onion Router - just as there are many layers to the vegetable, there are many layers of encryption on the network.
It was originally designed by the US Naval Research Laboratory, and continues to receive funding from the US State Department.
It attempts to hide a person's location and identity by sending data across the internet via a very circuitous route involving several "nodes" - which, in this context, means using volunteers' PCs and computer servers as connection points.
Encryption applied at each hop along this route makes it very hard to connect a person to any particular activity.
To the website that ultimately receives the request, it appears as if the data traffic comes from the last computer in the chain - known as an "exit relay" - rather than the person responsible.
Tor graphicTor hides a user's identity by routing their traffic through a series of other computers
As well as allowing users to visit normal websites anonymously, it can also be used to host hidden sites, which use the .onion suffix.
Tor's users include the military, law enforcement officers and journalists - who use it as a way of communicating with whistle-blowers - as well as members of the public who wish to keep their browser activity secret.
But it has also been associated with illegal activity, allowing people to visit sites offering illegal drugs for sale and access to child abuse images, which do not show up in normal search engine results and would not be available to those who did not know where to look.

Huge raid to shut down 400-plus dark net sites

Huge raid to shut down 400-plus dark net sites
Silk Road 2.0 and 400 other sites believed to be selling illegal items including drugs and weapons have been shut down.
The sites operated on the Tor network - a part of the internet unreachable via traditional search engines.
The joint operation between 16 European countries and the US saw 17 arrests, including Blake Benthall who is said to be behind Silk Road 2.0.
Experts believe the shutdown represents a breakthrough for fighting cybercrime.
Six Britons were also arrested, including a 20-year-old man from Liverpool, a 19-year-old man from New Waltham, a 30 year-old-man from Cleethorpes and a man and woman, both aged 58, from Aberdovey, Wales.
All were interviewed and bailed according to the National Crime Agency.
Tor, as well as hosting legitimate sites, is home to thousands of illegal marketplaces, trading in drugs, child abuse images as well as sites for extremist groups.
line
Analysis: Rory Cellan-Jones, technology correspondent
Skull graphic
It was the operation last year to take down the drugs marketplace Silk Road which was the first major success in the battle against criminal use of the dark net.
Now this much bigger operation involving global cooperation amongst law enforcement agencies sees that battle taken to a new level, with Silk Road 2.0 amongst 400 sites closed.
It's important to remember that the dark net isn't all about illegal activity. Indeed its best known tool the anonymising browser Tor was created by a US intelligence agency to help its operations and to assist people living under repressive regimes.
Last year, many predicted that shutting one online drugs bazaar - and arresting its alleged owner Ross William Ulbricht - would not make a lot of difference, with plenty more rushing to fill the gap.
Now this much bigger operation may signal that the authorities have developed new techniques to track down the origins of these networks and those behind them.
Still, the number of arrests may be telling - 400 sites closed, but just 17 arrests. That would suggest there is a lot of work still to be done.
line
Silk Road 2.0 - which launched in October last year - is one of the most notorious and deals in the buying and selling of illegal drugs.
It was resurrected after the original Silk Road site was shut down and its alleged owner arrested.
'Serious organised crime'
The operation also saw the seizure of Bitcoins worth approximately $1m (£632,000).
"Today we have demonstrated that, together, we are able to efficiently remove vital criminal infrastructures that are supporting serious organised crime," said Troels Oerting, head of Europol's European cybercrime centre.
"And we are not 'just' removing these services from the open internet; this time we have also hit services on the dark net using Tor where, for a long time, criminals have considered themselves beyond reach," he added.
The BBC understands that the raid represented both a technological breakthrough - with police using new techniques to track down the physical location of dark net servers - as well as seeing an unprecedented level of international co-operation among law enforcement agencies.
Sign that appeared on seized sitesSites seized showed the following caption
The so-called deep web - the anonymous part of the internet - is estimated to be anything up to 500 times the size of the surface web.
Within that experts refer to the dark net - the part of the network which Tor operates on. There are approximately three million Tor users but the number of sites may be smaller.
Prof Alan Woodward a security consultant from the University of Surrey who also advises Europol, said that the shutdown represents a new era in the fight against cybercrime.
"Tor has long been considered beyond the reach of law enforcement. This action proves that it is neither invisible nor untouchable," he said.
But, he added, it did not mean copycat sites would not spring up, or that the police had thrown light on the dark net.
line
Explainer: What is Tor?
Tor is a special part of the internet that requires software, known as the Tor Browser bundle, to access it.
The name is an acronym for The Onion Router - just as there are many layers to the vegetable, there are many layers of encryption on the network.
It was originally designed by the US Naval Research Laboratory, and continues to receive funding from the US State Department.
It attempts to hide a person's location and identity by sending data across the internet via a very circuitous route involving several "nodes" - which, in this context, means using volunteers' PCs and computer servers as connection points.
Encryption applied at each hop along this route makes it very hard to connect a person to any particular activity.
To the website that ultimately receives the request, it appears as if the data traffic comes from the last computer in the chain - known as an "exit relay" - rather than the person responsible.
Tor graphicTor hides a user's identity by routing their traffic through a series of other computers
As well as allowing users to visit normal websites anonymously, it can also be used to host hidden sites, which use the .onion suffix.
Tor's users include the military, law enforcement officers and journalists - who use it as a way of communicating with whistle-blowers - as well as members of the public who wish to keep their browser activity secret.
But it has also been associated with illegal activity, allowing people to visit sites offering illegal drugs for sale and access to child abuse images, which do not show up in normal search engine results and would not be available to those who did not know where to look.

Samaritans pulls 'suicide watch' Radar app

Samaritans pulls 'suicide watch' Radar app
The app was launched at the end of October - but is now suspended
An app made by the Samaritans that was supposed to detect when people on Twitter appeared to be suicidal has been pulled due to "serious" concerns.
The charity's app was meant to use an algorithm to identify key words and phrases which indicated distress.
But in practice, some said the app made those with mental health issues feel more vulnerable.
The Samaritans apologised to "anyone who has inadvertently been caused any distress".
"We have made the decision to suspend the application at this time for further consideration," said the charity's policy director, Joe Ferns, in a statement.
"Our primary concern is for anyone who may be struggling to cope, including those with mental health conditions.
"We are very aware that the range of information and opinion, which is circulating about Samaritans Radar, has created concern and worry for some people and would like to apologise to anyone who has inadvertently been caused any distress.
"This was not our intention."
'Stalkers and bullies'
Launched last month, the Samaritans Radar app analysed Twitter accounts for phrases like "tired of being alone", "hate myself", "depressed", "help me" and "need someone to talk to".
Users who have signed up for the scheme will receive an email alert if someone they followed tweeted such statements.
While Samaritans Radar only monitored tweets that were publicly available, some found the level of analysis unsettling.
A petition calling for Radar's closure read: "While this could be used legitimately by a friend to offer help, it also gives stalkers and bullies and opportunity to increase their levels of abuse at a time when their targets are especially down.

"Just as bad, not everyone apparently wanting to help may be able to do so effectively or has the person's best interests at heart."
In other cases, the Radar app was mocked due to false positives.
'History of innovating'
Moreover, data protection experts had raised concerns over the monitoring process.
Jon Baines, chairman of the National Association of Data Protection and Freedom of Information Officers, said he believed the app "had been released without adequate assessment of its impact on people's privacy".
Despite the suspension of the app, the Samaritans' Mr Ferns defended the charity's track record experimenting with new technology.
"Samaritans has a history of innovating to meet the challenges of providing a safe, relevant and effective service to all those we exist to support and we will continue to do this and learn from the work we do.
"We will use the time we have now to engage in further dialogue with a range of partners, including in the mental health sector and beyond in order to evaluate the feedback and get further input.
"We will also be testing a number of potential changes and adaptations to the app to make it as safe and effective as possible for both subscribers and their followers."

Samaritans pulls 'suicide watch' Radar app

Samaritans pulls 'suicide watch' Radar app
The app was launched at the end of October - but is now suspended
An app made by the Samaritans that was supposed to detect when people on Twitter appeared to be suicidal has been pulled due to "serious" concerns.
The charity's app was meant to use an algorithm to identify key words and phrases which indicated distress.
But in practice, some said the app made those with mental health issues feel more vulnerable.
The Samaritans apologised to "anyone who has inadvertently been caused any distress".
"We have made the decision to suspend the application at this time for further consideration," said the charity's policy director, Joe Ferns, in a statement.
"Our primary concern is for anyone who may be struggling to cope, including those with mental health conditions.
"We are very aware that the range of information and opinion, which is circulating about Samaritans Radar, has created concern and worry for some people and would like to apologise to anyone who has inadvertently been caused any distress.
"This was not our intention."
'Stalkers and bullies'
Launched last month, the Samaritans Radar app analysed Twitter accounts for phrases like "tired of being alone", "hate myself", "depressed", "help me" and "need someone to talk to".
Users who have signed up for the scheme will receive an email alert if someone they followed tweeted such statements.
While Samaritans Radar only monitored tweets that were publicly available, some found the level of analysis unsettling.
Rory Cellan-Jones shows how the new Samaritan Radar app works
A petition calling for Radar's closure read: "While this could be used legitimately by a friend to offer help, it also gives stalkers and bullies and opportunity to increase their levels of abuse at a time when their targets are especially down.

"Just as bad, not everyone apparently wanting to help may be able to do so effectively or has the person's best interests at heart."
In other cases, the Radar app was mocked due to false positives.
'History of innovating'
Moreover, data protection experts had raised concerns over the monitoring process.
Jon Baines, chairman of the National Association of Data Protection and Freedom of Information Officers, said he believed the app "had been released without adequate assessment of its impact on people's privacy".
Despite the suspension of the app, the Samaritans' Mr Ferns defended the charity's track record experimenting with new technology.
"Samaritans has a history of innovating to meet the challenges of providing a safe, relevant and effective service to all those we exist to support and we will continue to do this and learn from the work we do.
"We will use the time we have now to engage in further dialogue with a range of partners, including in the mental health sector and beyond in order to evaluate the feedback and get further input.
"We will also be testing a number of potential changes and adaptations to the app to make it as safe and effective as possible for both subscribers and their followers."

Porn stars demand Google's help to combat piracy

Porn stars demand Google's help to combat piracy
XXX in neonPorn stars and studios have called on Google to help publicise legal ways to buy adult content in an effort to combat piracy.
Prominent industry figures said they deserved the same measures as those recently introduced to publicise legitimate music and film sites.

"Google continues to discriminate against the adult industry," actress Angela White said.
The search giant told the BBC it did not want to comment on the concerns.
It recently struck a deal with the music industry in the UK to show links to legal ways to buy music more prominently than before.
Record labels had long complained that a search for something such as "Ed Sheeran album" would offer up piracy links ahead of legitimate sites.
'Taboo'
A number of influential figures in the porn industry have told the BBC they want the same kind of deal. At present, the online adult industry is not allowed to buy advertising space on Google's network.
"Google is perpetuating the misconception that the adult industry is not a legitimate industry," said Ms White.
"The adult industry is run like any other professional industry; we pay taxes, create jobs and contribute to the economy.
"How many times a day is the word 'porn' typed into the Google search interface? Mainstream corporations like Google continue to discriminate against the adult industry despite the world being genuinely interested in seeking out pornography.

Porn stars demand Google's help to combat piracy

Porn stars demand Google's help to combat piracy
XXX in neonPorn stars and studios have called on Google to help publicise legal ways to buy adult content in an effort to combat piracy.
Prominent industry figures said they deserved the same measures as those recently introduced to publicise legitimate music and film sites.

"Google continues to discriminate against the adult industry," actress Angela White said.
The search giant told the BBC it did not want to comment on the concerns.
It recently struck a deal with the music industry in the UK to show links to legal ways to buy music more prominently than before.
Record labels had long complained that a search for something such as "Ed Sheeran album" would offer up piracy links ahead of legitimate sites.
'Taboo'
A number of influential figures in the porn industry have told the BBC they want the same kind of deal. At present, the online adult industry is not allowed to buy advertising space on Google's network.
"Google is perpetuating the misconception that the adult industry is not a legitimate industry," said Ms White.
"The adult industry is run like any other professional industry; we pay taxes, create jobs and contribute to the economy.
"How many times a day is the word 'porn' typed into the Google search interface? Mainstream corporations like Google continue to discriminate against the adult industry despite the world being genuinely interested in seeking out pornography.

Virtual reality aids BAE warship design

Virtual reality aids BAE warship design

BAE engineer examining a ship's interior

Engineers can examine the ships in detail before they are built
Engineers at BAE Systems, the firm contracted to build vessels, are creating virtual versions that can then be examined in detail before any actual steel is cut.
Previously engineers had relied on wood or cardboard mock-ups of ships.
The system is currently being used to develop three offshore patrol vessels.
Engineer using virtual reality systemIn future engineers may wear Oculus-Rift style headsets as they design, BAE Systems said
BAE Systems hopes the technology system will become a fundamental part of the engineering process.
"Visualisation technology is transforming the way we design, build and deliver complex warships," said Mick Ord, managing director at BAE Systems' Naval Ships business.
"By creating a virtual prototype, we can mature and optimise a ship's design and gain a real understanding of the vessel and the experience of those serving on board before manufacturing begins."
The system has been installed in three sites - Glasgow, Portsmouth and Bristol.
Visualisation suites with huge screens allow engineers, equipped with special glasses and a controller, to walk around the computer-generated ships and inspect the innards of the vessels to see whether there are any potential issues with the design.
Howard Wheeldon, an independent defence analyst said that the system had a lot of benefits.
"There are a lot of people involved in ship design so to be able to do it this way is absolutely brilliant and should be the way forward in other areas of engineering," he said.

Virtual reality aids BAE warship design

Virtual reality aids BAE warship design

BAE engineer examining a ship's interior

Engineers can examine the ships in detail before they are built
Engineers at BAE Systems, the firm contracted to build vessels, are creating virtual versions that can then be examined in detail before any actual steel is cut.
Previously engineers had relied on wood or cardboard mock-ups of ships.
The system is currently being used to develop three offshore patrol vessels.
Engineer using virtual reality systemIn future engineers may wear Oculus-Rift style headsets as they design, BAE Systems said
BAE Systems hopes the technology system will become a fundamental part of the engineering process.
"Visualisation technology is transforming the way we design, build and deliver complex warships," said Mick Ord, managing director at BAE Systems' Naval Ships business.
"By creating a virtual prototype, we can mature and optimise a ship's design and gain a real understanding of the vessel and the experience of those serving on board before manufacturing begins."
The system has been installed in three sites - Glasgow, Portsmouth and Bristol.
Visualisation suites with huge screens allow engineers, equipped with special glasses and a controller, to walk around the computer-generated ships and inspect the innards of the vessels to see whether there are any potential issues with the design.
Howard Wheeldon, an independent defence analyst said that the system had a lot of benefits.
"There are a lot of people involved in ship design so to be able to do it this way is absolutely brilliant and should be the way forward in other areas of engineering," he said.